I want your opinion

[DJ Moga]

Hi all!!!
I'm new here and i practicing dj-ing about 1 year and i want your opinion about my first recorded mix.
Here is the link: http://soundcloud.com/mogamihai/my-first-recorded-mix
And i dont use any turntables and mixers because i dont have enough money for that but im using a program on my computer...i hope you like it.
I love this job...to be a Dj...A real DJ.!!!!:love:

[TBA]

to be honest, I didn't listen to your mix because putting songs together in a program takes little to no skill. I feel like many others on this site won't bother to give you any feedback because there isn't anything to give feed back on. ONce you get some equipment and can showcase LIVE beat matching, EQing, etc etc, then post a mix.

[KLH]

Welcome to DJF, DJ Moga.


to be honest, I didn't listen to your mix because putting songs together in a program takes little to no skill... ONce you get some equipment and can showcase LIVE beat matching, EQing, etc etc, then post a mix.
+1. We'll be here waiting.

The reason for this is that DJs need to be able to read a crowd and determine what THEY want to hear and (ideally) work that track into the mix so that the energy flows from the playing song to the next song.

Now that you know how software can do it, the next step is for YOU to do it.

-KLH

[DJ Moga]

the software im using is like 2 turntables and a mixer....search on google "virtual DJ"

[DJ Moga]

to be honest, I didn't listen to your mix because putting songs together in a program takes little to no skill. I feel like many others on this site won't bother to give you any feedback because there isn't anything to give feed back on. ONce you get some equipment and can showcase LIVE beat matching, EQing, etc etc, then post a mix.

Yes i know all this but serch on the google "Virtual DJ" and you will see what program im using...

[Molbster]

LOL "DJ Forums" is no stranger to VDJ, so we don't really need to see what you're using. Besides, most freeware dj software out there runs pretty much the same way, same features.


If you're tapping "sync" at all, you've failed and I'd even personally say you're nowhere near being a DJ..... yet. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but there are at least 5-6 threads that are pretty much a carbon copy of this one that pop up here on the forums every week. Stick around for a while, browse some threads first, pick up some tips, learn the real way things are done. Then when you're confident enough, upload a mix.

[DJ Moga]

if you think im using Sync button you wrong because i mix about 1 year and i doing that very good and i dont need sync button

[djlukewathey]

what people are saying Moga is useing programs like virtual dj is to easy and doesnt replicate djing very well,

before i got my turntable i tried virtual dj and even a dj controller and to be fair my mixing wasnt pretty spot on after about 3 weeks without sync.

iv had turntable about a year now (i mix vinyl) and its completly different and i still cant mix perfectly there is real skill involved in the art of djing,

although you may have mastered the software try and save up and get some gear and youl know what i mean ...

good luck dude

[Alex Murphy]

if you think im using Sync button you wrong because i mix about 1 year and i doing that very good and i dont need sync button

I honestly doubt that, and if you tried doing the same mix using real decks and a mixer you would understand. It's similar to those kids I see playing call of duty then thinking they're all badass snipers. Don't trick yourself thinking that way, VDJ has virtual as part of it's name.

You need to improve on EQing, keeping an eye on levels, using effects + other DJing techniques (do your research), making a solid track selection and last but not least: For someone who says he's been at it for a year and is very good at it: I'd expect more than just 3 autosynced eurodance tracks running a total time of 13 minutes. After a year on VDJ you should be able to do at least an hour. This was uneventful and does not reflect a year's worth of DJing. Try harder.

[akswun]

[QUOTE=Manu;69555]I honestly doubt that, and if you tried doing the same mix using real decks and a mixer you would understand. It's similar to those kids I see playing call of duty then thinking they're all badass snipers. Don't trick yourself thinking that way, VDJ has virtual as part of it's name. QUOTE]

What are you talking about?! I triple kill all day.. I know I can do it in real life!!!! I KNOW I CAN!

[DJ Moga]

Ok then thnx all for your opinion and i guess im done with dj-ing because i dint have any change to de a good dj...My dream is done now...Thanks All and i appreciate your opinion!!!!:)

[djpenguin]

Ok then thnx all for your opinion and i guess im done with dj-ing because i dint have any change to de a good dj...My dream is done now...Thanks All and i appreciate your opinion!!!!:)

Essentially, you're saying that you're one of those thin-skinned self-entitled punks who can't handle any kind of feedback that isn't somebody blowing rainbows and sunshine up your asshole. It's depressing to discover that phenomenon is not limited to the US/UK.

[prODucer]

Doesn't traktor have a sync button? Him saying he doesn't use it in virtual dj is probably pretty similar to traktor djs saying they don't use it in traktor? Both are lying or both are telling the truth.

I've cheated with serato on the past. And I'll admit that! I don't anymore because I got rid of serato. All DVS programs allow for a dj to cheat if they feel the need. With or without decks and a mixer ;)

[prODucer]

I honestly don't care either way. I'd you cheat you are really only cheating yourself right?

[Molbster]

Doesn't traktor have a sync button? Him saying he doesn't use it in virtual dj is probably pretty similar to traktor djs saying they don't use it in traktor? Both are lying or both are telling the truth.

Valid point, but remember the guy has nothing besides VDJ and his computer.

Think about the different ways we beatmatch: tapping cue/play on time, nudging the platters, playing with pitch sliders...

Someone not getting a tactile response to what they try to manipulate the screen to do is more inclined to rely on the computer doing the work than using your ears to do the work.

Now think about how VDJ works. The platters are almost completely worthless except for at a party to make "wicky wicky" noises to impress the girls. And unless you have somehow split the audio output from your computer, you never hear your que track. You have to rely on them being "in sync" by watching the waveforms and noticing something going awry when bringing in the track softly. So in this situation, it's not necessarily Traktor vs VDJ and autosync, but rather having external equipment to help you utilize the software. Not saying it can't be done, but to my experience, I don't see a lot of self-taught guys using the program as a training tool that it can be.

[Divercity]

Ok then thnx all for your opinion and i guess im done with dj-ing because i dint have any change to de a good dj...My dream is done now...Thanks All and i appreciate your opinion!!!!:)

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Lol.. Just get some gear and work at it man!

[prODucer]

I agree molbster. Very true. I actually played with vdj waaaay back when and it truly did suck. Big time sucked. Gear is always better and if you truly want to learn the art of djing only you can learn properly. Affording gear is another topic. It's expensive and I feel for people who really want to dj but can't afford the gear. I was once in that position and vdj did kinda help me through it..

[prODucer]

And right sorry! I did forget about the inability to listen to the cue track. I think I remember that to do that u would need a dual sound card or something?

[Spife]

third the playing on vdj. I got a job the following summer of fooling around on it and was like "Sweet I can get hardware for this thing...wait I'm getting decks"

[Molbster]

And right sorry! I did forget about the inability to listen to the cue track. I think I remember that to do that u would need a dual sound card or something?

Yea, pretty much.


I'm not saying he has to get a controller either. You can kinda emulate that by knowing the Keyboard hot keys, but it's just not the same. The best way VDJ is used IMO is if you treat it like what you hear out of your headphones in what you'd hear on que when playing on real gear. You can learn to beatmatch by knowing hot keys for Cue/Play and pitch bends. Works even better if you covered the waveforms with a towel or something.

[DjDisArm]

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Lol.. Just get some gear and work at it man!

:lol:

[charlie419]

have fun with what you got. do research on equipment best for you and when you got cash to buy some gear youll be ready.

[Nicadraus]

Hi Moga! I listened to your mix and I should say you did a pretty good job with your transitions. Anyway, I see the motivation and passion in you. Just keep practicing and save up to get the proper gear for you. Remember to learn to beat match properly by ear and not visuals nor auto sync. Good luck and enjoy this craft. :)

[M!TCH]

Well, aside from the fact this should have gone in the mix submission forum, let's tackle the real issues here. One, as someone that is just learning how to mix I don't see anything wrong with using VDJ to kind of understand how mixing works and getting feedback easily since he is already recording it on the computer. Yes, this does not translate into being able to get up on real hardware and making a solid set. But, maybe that is all they have and they just wanted some feedback. While I doubt the
if you think im using Sync button you wrong because i mix about 1 year and i doing that very good and i dont need sync button

section, it doesn't mean that this person's mix is any less of a mix just because a computer program was used. Hell, for all I know this guy lives in a shack in the middle of Romania and is lucky to even get power (never been to Romania and I don't know anything about it).

To OP, just keep working with what you have. Read on the internet and learn as much as possible. If you can get real hardware then do it and see how that treats you. Don't give up on your dreams.

[Alex Murphy]

The real dream: to have members of the audience coming back to you after the gig, drenched in sweat and a huge grin on their faces while expressing their thanks for the music you played. Until then, you are scratching the surface and it totally depends on how much effort, practice and dedication you're willing to put into that.

[Kingbob182]

I might give this a listen later but at the moment, I'm at work. I had a read through the thread and to be honest, I agree with most people here. VDJ is not like being a DJ. Just like Virtual Fighting games doesn't qualify me to join the UFC.
But use it to get a handle on what to in the the real situation and when you buy some equipment you'll have a better understanding of how music is mixed. It's not a very different process but the 'controls' ARE very different. I'll try to remember to give feedback when I get home.

[blackfoxbb]

IMHO

mapping the laptop keyboard and mixing from there demands more skills than using proper equipment.

+rep for op.

[moyo wilde]

this post should be nominated for "when keeping it real goes wrong". damn ya'll were harsh with dude. he posted it in the beginner's section asking for opinions on his mix, he wasn't saying he was a superstar. he even said he didn't mix this on proper equipment etc. etc.

@op keep at it and save up for some equipment, no matter how long that takes. having a dream and a goal is the first step.

[Finnish_Fox]

It's expensive and I feel for people who really want to dj but can't afford the gear.

I notice a lot of these newbies are kids who are getting $300 thrown their way by their parents for Christmas or a b-day. Is the art of a part-time job and saving up for what you want lost entirely?

[Finnish_Fox]

The real dream: to have members of the audience coming back to you after the gig, drenched in sweat and a huge grin on their faces while expressing their thanks for the music you played. Until then, you are scratching the surface and it totally depends on how much effort, practice and dedication you're willing to put into that.

What about the money and hot chicks though?

[Finnish_Fox]

IMHO

mapping the laptop keyboard and mixing from there demands more skills than using proper equipment.

+rep for op.

:eek:

[Spife]

IMHO

mapping the laptop keyboard and mixing from there demands more skills than using proper equipment.

+rep for op.

IMHO

Mixing with only your elbows on any equipment demands more skills then using 10 fingers on a keyboard using VDJ and your laptop.

Norep4u.

[Alex Murphy]

What about the money and hot chicks though?

I expect to be paid for my time, and I'm not interested in groupies.







IMHO

mapping the laptop keyboard and mixing from there demands more skills than using proper equipment.


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[M!TCH]

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I've been getting deja-vu pretty commonly for the past month or so, why? It's not really more than a minor nuisance, but I wish I knew more about it or why it happens, I can't seem to come up with anything past it being a glitch in the matrix :freak:

[Alex Murphy]

:argh: Fine...


































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[Finnish_Fox]

I've been getting deja-vu pretty commonly for the past month or so, why? It's not really more than a minor nuisance, but I wish I knew more about it or why it happens, I can't seem to come up with anything past it being a glitch in the matrix :freak:

:fap:

[Finnish_Fox]

I expect to be paid for my time, and I'm not interested in groupies.

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[Kingbob182]

I had to post here. Everytime I go to "What's New?", I read this as "I want your onion"

[Divercity]

This thread is great for the OP. Well done :D

[Buddy McKarthur]

Not a bad mix, considering it is your first. However, I would suggest buying even just a small shitty midi controller instead of just hunching over your computer. Don't listen to the people all like "VDJ is bad don't use it". You can use it for now, as long as you don't take advantage of the short cuts it offers (sync button, etc.). Furthermore, you should upgrade to a more advanced DJ interface after about another couple months of practice...Traktor or Serato would be what you would want to look into. As I mentioned above, invest in a a couple cdjs and a basic mixer or just some old midi controller you found online...save some money, borrow some money do whatever, just get out from behind your computer!!! Good luck :) and if you have any questions, feel fee to message me